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Topic: Dooku VS Vader-who would win?
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Ahmad
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Member # 219
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posted 06-21-2002 12:30 AM
     
No he wasn't, cause that'd mean Obi Wan would be stronger then him, which is simply outrageous. He might have higher molo. but that doesn't mean he is stronger. In truth, if you are intuned with the force ability, and fighting ability, nothing matters more. I mean, Qui-Gon was doing well against someone such as Darth Maul, until the accident, who was highly stronger then him molo. In truth, it doesn't matter, and Count Dooku couldn't even touch Vader, as he could reflect lasers, and I haven't seen anyone do that...-------------------- "If I wanted to..you'd be dead"-Ahmad
Posts: 90 | From: | Registered: May 2002 | Logged: 12.246.169.9
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Trel kentar
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Member # 230
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posted 06-23-2002 12:53 AM
ok, as was the post that said dooku was stronger then vader because vader didnt have lightning, well, that would be because vadar perfered using telokeneses, its in ep-2, he lifts the fruit up and floats it to padme, he was good with it, and then turned it to a weapon, think about it, obi-wan blocked the lightning with his saber, did you see anyone able to block the choke? the lighting simply hits them and causes damage, the choke lets vader throw off there consentration, and makes then totaly easy to attack... then of course the thing with throwing boxes, that as well shows vader loves telekeneses... AND look, darth maul, the most powerful of all sith in my opinion, used simply the throwing of boxes, lightning wasnt something he used (cept in the game of course, which is crap...) so now you know the opinion of me  dont you feel special>[ 06-23-2002 12:55 AM: Message edited 1 time, lastly by Trel kentar ] -------------------- "im just a loser jedi, in a vast univers of winners..."
Section 4, article three of Trels book of facts
Posts: 64 | From: Phelan | Registered: Jun 2002 | Logged: 209.178.189.236
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Trel kentar
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Member # 230
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posted 06-23-2002 01:17 AM
NO NO NO! im afriad not my friend... dooku faced three jedi, one at a time...he knocked anakin to the wall, beat up on obi-wan then, and then he faught anakin, and then he faught yoda, maul faught obi-wan and qui-gon at the same exact time, and then one at a time, and was more than a match... sorry to dissagree with you, but maul was da bomb, and by the end of my time here, i will let all of you know that, and you will agree...i guess i have a lot of work to do, as you might have noticed, i sneak in something about maul in almost every post  -------------------- "im just a loser jedi, in a vast univers of winners..."
Section 4, article three of Trels book of facts
Posts: 64 | From: Phelan | Registered: Jun 2002 | Logged: 209.178.189.236
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LumbiaSith
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Member # 250
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posted 08-07-2002 11:08 PM
I actually have to change my first electon the combat. The two combatants are very diverse in style, and have differences in strenght, still not meaning that one is a better competitor or combatant. I believe that Dooku can destroy of Darth Vader in close range combat, which has been shown before. He threw him down like hot potatoes. I believe in Force manners Darth Vader is higher, but when it comes to lightsaber collision on the battle feild, everything is over. Dooku showed he could take on near anyone with that battle with Yoda, which he nearly lost for it wasn't for his quick thinking. He could have quickly destroyed of Anakin in hte first place, and Darth Vader hasn't enterally changed with close range combat. If they are far away, I think that Dooku would still lose, he doesn't have the tools, other then for his lighting techinque to kill a opponent such as Vader, or anyone of his caliber.-------------------- "I am here to redeem myself. See, The Fate of the universe lies in my hands! I will take up the challenge!"
-Lumbia Whitfield
Posts: 1143 | From: In space... | Registered: Jun 2002 | Logged: 12.213.76.134
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LumbiaSith
Padawan
Member # 250
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posted 08-16-2002 09:03 PM
I'd like to establish yoda was not afraid, but outmatched. He was outmatched by an army, a Death Star, a incredible Dark Master, and Darth Vader. Who would be stupid enough to attack, not him. He was probably awaiting the day of light, so he could rest forever. Like he did with Luke, when he knew he would be able to beat his adversary, and bring back his father. When light would appear once more. He was outmatched by Darkness, not one person...-------------------- "I am here to redeem myself. See, The Fate of the universe lies in my hands! I will take up the challenge!"
-Lumbia Whitfield
Posts: 1143 | From: In space... | Registered: Jun 2002 | Logged: 12.213.76.134
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Entaris
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Member # 224
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posted 08-16-2002 09:45 PM
hmm... id have to disagree with your statment a few posts up lumbia, In close range combat vader is very awsome, look at the evedence anakin was able to dual with 2 lightsabers, not a small task...now, add in the fact that vader is much more skilled then anakin, and you got a very good dualist. Vader faught with luke, and although i dispise luke, i have to say he's very skilled with a lightsaber...so, if vader can survive a battle with luke, he could survive a battle with dooku. Dooku was extrodenary yes, but his fighting style is fully defensive, while vader is all around... that is his advantage, plus, as stated above, he could drop a shuttle on him  -------------------- "Insert Snappy quote here"
Posts: 796 | From: Victorville | Registered: May 2002 | Logged: 67.219.51.68
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LumbiaSith
Padawan
Member # 250
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posted 08-16-2002 10:37 PM
Dooku survived, and did an incredible fight with Yoda. The Master of all Jedi, and able to clearly defeat Vader and Dooku, and possibly Palpatine, but neither at the same time. Dooku is more skilled because he was trained by the best, Obi WAn was great, but he wasn't the best. Anakin as as good at his master when he turns to the Dark side, and that is why he was thrown into the pit. He grew, but he coudl took on Obi-Wan and beat him because of his enhancement with the DArk Side, and little bit of his lightsaber skills. It didn't improve that much, and Dooku can beat Obi-Wan, and Anakin of the old. HE can beat Vader, he can beat near everyone with a lightsaber except possibly Mace Windu, and surely Yoda, specially in his prime-------------------- "I am here to redeem myself. See, The Fate of the universe lies in my hands! I will take up the challenge!"
-Lumbia Whitfield
Posts: 1143 | From: In space... | Registered: Jun 2002 | Logged: 12.213.76.134
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Entaris
Dark Priest
Member # 224
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posted 08-16-2002 11:35 PM
you keep making reference to how dooku beat anakin, but that doesnt matter, 1) anakin was a lightside user, 2)if the padawan ends up as good as his master, as you refered to dooku as having been trained by the best, then you must see that therin, qui-gon was trained by dooku, and obi-wan was trained by him, therin anakin was trained by the best... and then add in training from palpatine. 3) dooku is good with a lightsaber, but he is not match for vader, because vader has proved that he has good lightsaber skills... anakin fought as a lightside user and stood a chance, yes, the lightning, but thats because he's an idiot, and wasnt prepared, but he got up after that and faught on, that shows skill,now magnify is skill by changing him to the darkside, and he is god... his armor is likewise protective, so he gains an advantage. -------------------- "Insert Snappy quote here"
Posts: 796 | From: Victorville | Registered: May 2002 | Logged: 67.219.51.68
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Sa'kal'ishaalas
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Member # 532
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posted 08-22-2004 07:46 AM
i would also like to mention a few things about the jedi beating the sith warriors. First, has anyone noticed that obi-wan was mad at darth maul, and luke was mad at vader when he attacked him? i personally think the only way for most jedi to beat any sith is to fall partially to the dark side. also, vader would open a can of woop a$$ on dooku. Dooku may have the unique style of fighting, but lets face it, vader is Anakin, and Anakin is the CHOSEN ONE. Vader led the hunt for the jedi, but he did have an army behind him. Vader was much more experienced that dooku though, plus dooku wasn't a warrior, he was a political idealist. he only fought when needed. Oh, and i'd like to see dooku block a chocking move by vader .Basically, Vader would woop Dooku's a$$.
Posts: 173 | From: | Registered: May 2004 | Logged: 67.164.11.178
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