As you probably all know the US was attacked by terroists today and its brought our whole country to its knees and opened our eyes to the fact that we are not invincible that we are very vunerable no matter how advanced we are....

"The third big war will begin when the big city is burning."
- Nostradamus, 1654

Just wait for it...once we attack Afganistan which will probably within the next week or two I guess all hell will break loose. You think this is bad??? I'm guessing it will get worse.

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"Can't you hear my motored heart? Your the one that started it!"

-Foo Fighters "Generator"

Cogito ergo sum

This is absolutely unbelievable, and will not go unpunished. They won't say it, but Bin Laden is behind it. He sid thrree weeks ago he was going to get the US, and it was going to be 'a big one'. I can't describe what I feel right now.

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Man...some people in this world still don't know how to be moral still. Gas stations are raising prices in some places just to raise them to take people's money. The station my mom works for(she works in the corporate office as head buyer)was told by amaco that they CANNOT raise their prices...but other stations are doing it anyways and cops are going out and getting them to change them right now.

Right now the US should be mourning the dead NOT swindling people out of money.

Dude Ani...were gonna whoop some towelheads.

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"Can't you hear my motored heart? Your the one that started it!"

-Foo Fighters "Generator"

Cogito ergo sum

However, that does not excuse this horrid act. It was cold, calculated, and just plain sick.

They picked the planes with the most possible fuel on them. They took planes from UNITED and AMERICAN. They chose 9-11 (911) as the date for the attack. They acted between 8:45-and 9 something, when the most people in those buildings were at their desks. They attack the World Trade Towers and the Pentagon, national symbols.

I'm furious. I hope we blow the living hell out of them.

God Bless the U.S.A.

by Lee Greenwood

If tomorrow all the things were gone
I'd worked for all my life,
And I had to start again
with just my children and my wife,
I'd thank my lucky stars
to be living here today,
'Cause the flag still stands for freedom
and they can't take that away.

I'm proud to be an American
where at least I know I'm free,
And I won't forget the men who died
who gave that right to me,
And I gladly stand up next to you
and defend her still today,
'Cause there ain't no doubt I love this land
God Bless the U.S.A.

From the lakes of Minnesota
to the hills of Tennessee,
Across the plains of Texas
from sea to shining sea.
From Detroit down to Houston
and New York to L.A.,
There's pride in every American heart
and it's time we stand and say:

I'm proud to be an American
where at least I know I'm free,
And I won't forget the men who died
who gave that right to me,
And I gladly stand up next to you
and defend her still today,
'Cause there ain't no doubt I love this land
God Bless the U.S.A.

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This is a lot more complex, though. It's not the kind of war our grandparents had to fight. These fanatics have brought it out of the trenches and right into our lives. And they can count on one thing--we will blow the crap out of them for it. Haven't they studied history? Don't they know what happens when you piss off the U.S.A.?

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The flights that were Highjacked were from United and AA, they were numbered as follows:

11, 93, 175, and 77

11 = Tuesday
9+3 = 12 = Wednesday
1+7+5 = 13 = Thursday
7+7 = 14 = Friday

Could it be that it was meant to go on for four days? Or is it just a coincidence?

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Yesterday, the Senators were on the steps of the Capitol building, and out of no where came "God Bless America". How amazing.

Everything that we stand for, freedom, liberty, justice, was threatened yesterday. Everything that we have ever fought for, was threatened yesterday. What proves this is the nation's we never thought would come to our side, have come. Cuba is volunteering to send supplies to New York to help. China has said they are with us in this, as well as Russia. All of these countries know they wouldn't have what they have if it weren't for our country.

If these third world ignorant terrorists think they can break our spirits by breaking our buildings, they are wrong and they will soon find out how wrong they are.

America will stand the test of time, the World will see to it.

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Oh say does that star-spangled banner yet wave?
O'er the land of the free
And the home of the brave?

[ 09-12-2001 10:58 PM: Message edited 1 time, lastly by Mara1Jade ]

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Its Osama Bin-Laden that we have to find now and we gotta get him good for this.

Someone at my school suggested kill him and bury him on American soil so he won't go to heaven because they beleive that they won't go to heaven if buried on American soil.

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"Can't you hear my motored heart? Your the one that started it!"

-Foo Fighters "Generator"

Cogito ergo sum

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Something that I find really sad...people are assaulting Arabs and Muslims across the country and threatening to bomb mosques. I'm just as mad as anybody about this, but if we start killing innocents, we're no better than those terrorists. Not all Muslims buy into these scary doctrines of Bin Laden, etc. Basically they have the same moral code as Christians and Jews. It's only a couple of fanatics who are twisting Islam for evil purposes. Please, don't be a bigot and blame all Muslims for the actions of a few nuts.

*gets off soapbox*

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On another note, I uploaded this picture R2 and I made a few years ago:

It's more of a Revolution thing than what's happening now, though still patriotic...

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Anybody watch the national prayer service? Hear the words of Billy Graham? Of Bush. I thought a few times Bush looked like he could cry, just like everyone else there.

I sat and cried as I watched it. I guess I'm going through the grief process somewhat backwards. Shock, disbelief, anger, and now sadness.

But believe me I'm still angry.

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Other news...seems Russia isn't as welcome to an attack on Afghanistan as we are. I read on foxnews.com at school today that some russian officials, including a General, said that it's not likely that the US will lead a waron terrorism in Central Asia. I thought that sounded a little weird by mentioning the region.

And, the Afghan Militia has said they'll seek revenge on us if we attack. I'm wondering what they plane to do, since I'm sure we could have a nuke there in 5 minutes or less.

More than just Russia are being gay like this, Euro countries have been telling their citizens they won't follow the US blindly into war. I guess that's understandable, only it wouldn't be blindly. I doubt they would say that if 4 airliners were hijacked in their countries and crashed into national monuments, on purpose.

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Our pep rally at school today had a patriotic theme...we (Madrigals and Total Sound) sang "God Bless America". NJROTC presented the colors and the tears were running down my face when I looked at that flag. It has never meant this much to me in my life. I am ready to do whatever I have to, no matter how big or small, to keep that flag flying.

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What the hell? Have they missed the fact that the terrorists THEY are harboring and refusing to produce just drove THREE planes into national monuments, killing thousands, and had a fourth on the way that was only diverted by courageous passengers?

Have they missed THOUSANDS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE DIED BECAUSE OF THEIR UTTER STUPIDITY???

Revenge on us my arse.

And I agree, Ani. If the terrorists had driven a couple of planes into the Big Ben, for example, they'd be crying the same story.

This is not blind war. We know who the enemy is, even if we don't, if that makes sense.

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Seriously, we need to keep our anger. Mine is growing daily in leaps and bounds. I am into outrage, and it is burning just fine, thank you. I too never knew what patriotism I could feel... until now.

These creeps are the biggest cowards that could ever blight the earth. We need to stop thinking with conventional western logic. Too beat them, we have to think irrationally, and to think three jumps ahead.
I sure hope authorities are crawling over every city and town in America. I know they're out in force where I live, which is comforting to an extent.

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Nuking a country cause were gonna kill everyone in a country...and its gonna have SUBSTANTIAL effects on the world. Nuking a country could also start a nuclear war with other countries...its never a good thing?

Why do you think we should nuke them?

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"Can't you hear my motored heart? Your the one that started it!"

-Foo Fighters "Generator"

Cogito ergo sum

"Wipe them out. All of them."

Actually, we have other weapons which are far worse than nukes that I think we should use instead. But to the end result, which I have just stated.

Those who harbor our enemies ARE THEMSELVES our enemies. We can't afford to "pick and choose" who among the population will die, and who won't. Sheesh; this is WAR. What do you think happens in war? Think only the military installations and fighting body dies? Do you honestly think "innocent women and children" in these enemy countries ARE truly innocent?

Get out of western thinking. This is an eastern culture. They think differently. Their women think differently. Their children are taught the same.

THE TALIBAN IS THE ENEMY. (Along with a certain coward and his bullies.) It resides in Afghanistan... although maybe by now, come to think of it, it may be in Pakistan. THAT wonderful country, back-pedalling to "help us" out of fear, no doubt has already let bin Laden and the Taliban leaders across its borders into hiding. Perhaps they are ones we should hit, once we chase the Taliban out like the cowards they are. We know their population is strongly anti-American; this doesn't just spring up independent of the leaders.

ANYWAY: now is not the time to stand upon idealism. That is a trait springing from the inexperience of youth. It has little impact upon reality. It is time now to, just once, get above ourselves, THINK as they think, and treat them as they would treat us.

I said it once, and I'll say it again. Wipe them out, all of them.

The only other option lies at the other end of the spectrum. This would be resultant of the "Christian ethic" which supposedly guides this country. "Love thy enemy as thy self." "Forgive and forget."

WELL. To do that would absolutely disempower the terrorists. They could blow us to smithereens, and we would just keep forgiving and smiling... and they would be at such a loss it isn't even funny. But I just can't see America doing this, either.

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The Taliban has threatened Pakistan if they help us at all, they wouldn't do that if they Taliban leaders and bin Laden were there, and Pakistan wouldn't allow ground troops there, which (I heard) they agreed to do this morning.

Nuking Afghanistan is wrong too. The majority of people there are Innocent. The only reason you have to kill civilians is to demoralize the leaders, who will in turn want to end the war, to save their people. BUT, the people think dying to fight America is a good thing, so the leaders won't do shit.

This war will last a long time, and it won't only be against Afghanistan and bin Laden. Over time all countries harboring these radicals will become target as well, and all other terrorist organizations. The main goal is to kill it off. But it will take time, and dedication. Laurre, you're likely to end up become a suicide bomber with and jumping out of an airplane tied to a nuke over the middle east.

We have to keep a level head about it. We beat Nazism, and Communism, we can beat Terrorism. But, only if we stick together.

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