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seriously...

First of all, the Enterprise would be like 3 super star destroyers joined together... so that's one super star destroyer to each x wing...(just wait, if you think it's one sided now)

Also, the Enterprise's 'shields' are far more advanced than that of a x wing, their lasers wouldn't have a chance... no where near that of klingon disruptors, or phasers for that matter...(boring you yet?)

Shall I attempt to even talk about how these 3 x wings would dare to have a chance?

Ok, only one scenario...

here I go...

Geordi finally gets implants, but they fail during his 'check-up' on Data, he 'dots' where he should 'cross'... Data goes ape, does his best Picard, and sets the ship for 'self destruct'

wait, that would only be a stalemate... since the warp core breach would destroy the 3 x wings as well...

sorry, I really thought I had it there...

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Or lob out a photon torpedo or two.

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In that scenario, the Enterprise would still win... all Troy needs to do is sense the location of the 'cloaked' x wing pilots, then even if they couldn't 'target' they would simply beam the pilots into an asteroid or something...

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You are correct, she's no Data... but, Data is Data... and could easily track the x wing's firing vector... and merely one phaser hit would most definitely destroy an x wing... also, Data wouldn't have to detect them right away, since it would take the x wings weapons quite a while to knock down the Enterprises defenses...

And, let us not forget, Warp 1 is 10 times as fast as 'lightspeed'... if the Enterprise was in trouble, they'd long be gone before anything happened...

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That one episode about the computer prototype that they took aboard and finally got back out into space, where they blew it up is an example. I can't remember the name of the episode or the computer thing.

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Besides, who said anything about torpedos? Phasers would work, after calculating the vectors, it's simple enough to figure out where the x wings would be(or close enough...)

and this is assuming they're cloaked, and have the ability to fire while cloaked...

[ 02-09-2003 06:24 PM: Message edited 1 time, lastly by Loban ]

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and lets say the only way they could win the battle, is if they were beamed into holographic x wings on board the Enterprise's holodeck...

and, even then, the computer would still have to stack the deck against the holographic Enterprise...

and that's that...

[ 02-09-2003 06:38 PM: Message edited 1 time, lastly by Loban ]

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You are both missing the point I am trying to make, and that is that this whole subject is a moot point. Enterprise has already been proven to target much smaller targets and win.

Computers are computers... the X-Wing will be tracked and hit.

Not to mention a little fact everyone seems to be overlooking: X-Wings CANNOT swoop and dive and all that silliness that they do in SW. It is physically impossible. Not unless they have a HECKUVA LOTTA firing jets plastered all over them, which I sure as heck can't see.

They can go forward until acted upon by an outside force. Ask Newton and his physical laws of motion. Or, ask me. I teach astronomy, heh.

All the banking and swooping is indicative of motion in an atmosphere... which there is NOT in space. Their movements are limited. Enterprise would easily track, predict, and chew them up.

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Reality-based versus non. There is no commonality for serious debate.

But even so: Enterprise COULD EASILY target the fighters and her phasers could just as easily blow them to smithereens. Lucas's ships use LASERS. Those are not as energetic as PHASERS. The structural shielding of the ships in the SW universe is geared against LASERS.

They'd be mincemeat... OK. Prime Directive: they'd target and tractor and beam aboard and imprison.

BUT. If they were attacked first, Prime Directive goes down the drain, and they can retaliate in self defense. They'd probably target and disable and tractor and beam, though.

And no way could Luke cloud Data's mind. It is a computer. Luke can't do that....

R2-D2 might strike up a conversation with him, though.

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Not to mention that the Enterprise has very long range sensors, and would know of them coming in, and would recognize any attack formation they might try to make, and would thus raise her shields... not to mention that when the X-Wings refused to answer her hails to begin with she would then raise them, and so on.

And who's talking about Picard? I'm talking about the greatest Star Trek captain: James Tiberius Kirk.

They just wouldn't stand a chance. Kirk ALWAYS raised shields when unknown spacecraft came into sight. I think Picard does too, for that matter. It's standard Starfleet protocol, sheesh.

You can't pit flyboys against seasoned captains. No way.

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