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Anakin
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1. Man goes on, but evolves into something we would not recognize as man in the least.

2. The earth would experience another Mass Extinction Event (which have been going on at regular intervals of several million years throughout Earth's history) and PFFT! We'd be history. Something else would evolve to fill the niche.

Man is transient, as is all other life on this earth. Until it's internal heat engine finally dies, the earth will survive.

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Anakin
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And hey, NASA is actually considering Mars as a next step, since we have evidence of water there....

And personally, I'm not a "deist" of any kind. I am a realist. In my humble opinion, Man has some sort of love of self, to place himself as being in the image of a god, for pity's sake!

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Anakin
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Anakin
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Yep... albeit, perhaps unconscious lies at best.

It is my firm belief that people WANT to believe there is a life after death, they WANT to believe there is a "happy-ever-after," they WANT to believe someone older and wiser is looking out for our precious little selves; and so we create a myriad worlds ranging from alien abductions to seeing ghosts and psychic phenomena to religious doctrines promising us this rosy "future." (Of course in the case of the latter, we must all "pay our dues" in one way or another, in a manner of speaking!)

Until some sort of replicable proof of the existence of ghosts can be found, I'm afraid I am going to put it all down under the heading of "Wishful Thinking." People can say what they want; there's always someone somewhere who will listen....

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Anakin
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We are nothing but a wonderfully culminating apex of physicality. Nothing mysterious about it. Even though we want it to be.

And at this point let me differentiate between "life ever-after" and our connections to life in the here and now. I do also believe there is a connecting "energy field" if you will, of which we are all a part. Or perhaps it is one we just radiate naturally, as a vibrant living being. I don't know what it is, I don't know if it can be manipulated or not (perhaps this is the source of such phenomena as psychokinesis and ESP)--however, what I do know is that I think it does exist, for I have felt it through Ta'i Chi.

It remains a mystery at the moment, but perhaps due only to our lack of advanced enough testing devices.

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Anakin
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Proof proves. All else is speculation.

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Anakin
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Ok, so you tell me. If there is absolutely no evidence to prove something exists, does it exist?

Thinking like this smacks of Medievelism. Give me the Age of Scientific Enlightenment.

I am not saying whatever it is you are talking about CANNOT exist. I am saying that at the present moment, we cannot prove it does. Science seeks truth; it does not close it's mind to new theories and hypotheses. But it does NOT exist on speculation alone. Many old theories have been disproven and new theories have taken their place throughout history. But in all cases, to justify the new, replicable experiments had to result in redundant data. Theories are NOT based on "maybes, ifs and wishes."

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Anakin
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BUT~

Where I do take offense is when the "maybe-ifs" are illogically jumped upon with no real, replicable proofs, and people sort of "talk themselves into believing" unproven so-called "facts" simply because someone says something happened. There is a razor's edge to walk here. It's easy to "believe" in something because we want to believe in it, especially if someone declares evidence exists to support it.

But if that evidence cannot be replicated in a controlled environment, it cannot be considered as data. Redundant data proves hypotheses, and helps create theories. In simpler words, data that can be tested positively over and over proves a former "speculation," and now we have a brand-new fact.

Again, otherwise all we have is speculation. And yeah, we can speculate until we are blue in the face, and consider all possibilities. That does not make something truly real. It has not been satisfactorily proven.

I repeat: proofs prove.

I have a question...I know some of you don't beleive in a god and I want to know how did the Universe start? Don't tell me the Big Bang because there was matter there too? What created that. How can something appear out of nothing? It has to start somewhere.

Another thing...I'm a firm beleiver in God and Jesus Christ. I beleive that after I die I will go to heaven. I beleive that there is a afterlife and there are forces that we cannot explain.

Um....thats all I really feel like saying right now...

Ohh and don't take offense to things so quickly Graysith...and be open to new things. Trust me...new isn't to bad

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I am just saying unless there is proof, we cannot say with 100% certainty that something is true. Please note, this includes the Big Bang Theory as well! We have much supportive data, but this is not 100% proven. I just happen to personally believe in this.

Again, what I take offense to is when people believe in something out of wishful thinking. Without considering any evidence whatsoever. I believe in the Big Bang Theory because I feel what we have already discovered strongly lends credence to this theory.

As far as the Universe question, we can liken it to "God": Who created God?

In my humble opinion, Man did. And that's all I'm going to say on this touchy subject. As I mentioned before, cosmologists are working on where the matter in the universe came from; the sudden appearance of virtual pairs has been shown to be true. (You'd better be thankful; it's due to these guys that black holes are actually shrinking!)

Again, the comments posted in this reply reflect the opinions of Graysith, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of this site as a whole