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Topic: Did Obi-Wan touch the Darkside in Ep1?
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Mara1Jade
Expanded Universe Goddess and Corran Obsessor
Member # 68
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posted 10-28-2001 11:10 PM
Yeah, I think he might have touched the Dark Side. Star Wars is so hellbent on defining the lines, but JEEZ, the poor guy just saw his master killed before his eyes by a REALLY NASTY EVIL SITH. Jedi or not, how else was he supposed to react? And even if he *did* touch the Dark Side, can any of us argue that the action he took at that time WASN'T the appropriate one? And how the heck could the guy possibly remain TOTALLY CALM AND LOGICAL in the midst of what was happening? So did he touch the Darkside..yeah. But was this really wrong, or was it a natural reaction that resulted in an appropriate response? Yes. -------------------- Small minds think in small terms! ~~CMH, creator and writer of Shayla Petrolu, Erik Kartan, Shawn Petrolu, Terrin Danner, Jasyn Lancaster, Matt Stanza, Aaron Barnes, And Taylor Garrison~~
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Graysith
Chosen Daughter
Member # 27
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posted 10-29-2001 07:08 AM
But remember: both Obi-Wan and Luke were padawans, too. No Masters they. Makes me wonder what Qui-Gon would have done, how he would have reacted, were the roles reversed.And, hmmm... dead is dead. So what is the crux here? The mood of the killer at the time the deed is done, or the deed itself? (OK, self-defense I KNOW, I KNOW!) Another thought: right or wrong, you have to admit power comes from rage. Maybe without that additional oomph Obi-Wan would not have had the strength to overcome Maul. Heh... takes the Dark to destroy the Dark, don't ya know! [ 10-29-2001 07:09 AM: Message edited 1 time, lastly by Graysith ] -------------------- I ride the Stormcloud and the Night!
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Mara1Jade
Expanded Universe Goddess and Corran Obsessor
Member # 68
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posted 10-29-2001 09:29 AM
Yeah, I've always wondered if they could have succeeded without the "little extra oomph! Qui-Gon I suspect, if the roles were reversed, MIGHT HAVE reacted in a similiar fashion, but I'm not sure. It seems to me that he tended to go against the grain. And in the case of Luke, Obi-Wan, and Vader. I'm suspecting that we'll see Obi-Wan realize the evil that Darthy has turned to by Episode III and have to face that he MIGHT have to duel him and destroy him at some point. I'm a non-spoiler person so I have NO IDEA, but I'm betting Obi-Wan won't be able to kill Darthy either. Which is why he doesn't tell Luke that Vader is his father. Kinda hard to kill a guy you have that sort of attatchment to. Everyone knew that Luke really was interested in the Father that he didn't know. Hey look, now I'm rambling. LOL -------------------- Small minds think in small terms! ~~CMH, creator and writer of Shayla Petrolu, Erik Kartan, Shawn Petrolu, Terrin Danner, Jasyn Lancaster, Matt Stanza, Aaron Barnes, And Taylor Garrison~~
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BobPalpatine
Foo Fighter
Member # 17
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posted 12-08-2001 01:04 PM
I think ole Ben did have a chance against Vader but ole Ben knew that if he lost it could have consequences so he gave up so that Luke would grow stronger and he could still help Luke. I think his plan all along was to get chopped down by Vader and I'm willing to be that Vader was a lil spooked by the old man disappearing when he sliced him down... "I will be stronger than you can ever imagine." -------------------- "Can't you hear my motored heart? Your the one that started it!" -Foo Fighters "Generator" Cogito ergo sum BobPalpatine Holonet Admin
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ObiWanKenobi
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posted 12-20-2001 01:42 PM
Ah, Duh! Obi-Wan wanted to get killed for two reasons, 1) To save Luke and all that junk..... 2) To end his very sad miserable life! I mean, really, his master was killed in front of his own two eyes, and then the apprentice that HE DID NOT WANT turned and killed him! I, mean, I would want to go on the Death Star, I bet, obi-1 knew about the whole DYE ON THE DEATH STAR thing, anyway. Thanks for reading my rambling!
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Za'in Kenobi
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posted 05-12-2002 02:55 PM
I dont think he reached the dark side because of his reaction, he probably didn't even touch it. Remember, you have to have hate, pain, and suffering. He only had hate and pain at the moment, and suffering hadn't come for all that I see at the end. He was very calm, and much like his master in the situation, maybe inside suffering had come, but not much I believe, as he knows that would throw him to the Dark Side. And here comes another question, what would happen if Anakin didn't go to the dark side, and Obi-Wan did? haah, weird concept huh? -------------------- Star Wars: Dark Apprentice: Episode I Anakin trains under the look of Obi, meanwhile a Apprentice of the Darkness has faded away into the depths of light, heading for the one who killed Maul. What shall happen?
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