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Topic: Just Tossin' This Out....
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Graysith
Chosen Daughter
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posted 05-25-2005 11:46 AM
Is it just me, or does anyone else believe that Luke isn't the high n' mighty Jedi he is PURPORTED to be in the movies... which of course was picked up willy-nilly by writers in star wars book series who only want to make a buck and get in on the whole Star Wars bandwagon?Think about it. He didn't destroy the Emperor. He was being fried to a crispy critter, losing BIG TIME. Anakin was the only one strong enough to destroy Palpatine, even if it meant his own destruction as well, and he did it for Luke and quite possibly -- quite probably, in fact -- to compensate for all the evil he had done, all the horrible mistakes he had made. Luke is namby-pamby and just a lucky dog that the few peeps he was lucky enough to overcome using the Force were so rotten and evil that they were weak-enough minded to give in to his attempts. Jabba sneered at him. Boba Fett didn't appear at all concerned. And he only got in that one lucky punch in his lightsaber duel with Vader because Vader let him. He was a young upstart, just beginning to learn about the ways of the Force, and far far from being it's Master. No one around to really teach him more, too; everyone died. Maybe that's the Balance: after EPVI there ARE no more REAL jedi, there ARE no more Sith, the Force is a happy lil ol camper being simply left alone to run the universe... ...which is as it should be. [ 05-25-2005 11:47 AM: Message edited 1 time, lastly by Graysith ] -------------------- I ride the Stormcloud and the Night!
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Graysith
Chosen Daughter
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posted 08-05-2005 06:25 PM
Yes... and then he cuts and runs at the first sign of imminent danger, nevermind the counsel of Yoda, who was training him.THEN after promising to come back to "complete his training," something Yoda himself alluded to when Ben's spirit worried to him that "now all was lost..." (ie: Luke ran off before he was ready-aka-FULLY TRAINED!!) -- and coming back to finish his training only to find Yoda dying... ...suddenly he's the head honcho, top dog Jedi Knight? Suddenly Yoda can't teach him any more? Ok, so he's all they had available. And Yoda probably had to admit that even he couldn't teach him any further... WHEN THE KID WASN'T GONNA LISTEN ANYWAY. *snickers* Major, major plot hole... among many. You wouldn't catch the SITH being so slack! -------------------- I ride the Stormcloud and the Night!
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Graysith
Chosen Daughter
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posted 08-12-2005 02:14 PM
I don't think Luke ever DID "complete" his training at all. Remember when he went back to Dagobah, the dying Yoda suddenly proclaims, "No more can I teach you..."So SOMEWHERE between going to Bespin from Dagobah, or healing from the loss of his hand and going back to Tatooine to rescue Han, he bacame a Master?!?! Hmmm... maybe it was en route from Tatooine back to Dagobah... Like I said, there WERE no more Jedi, he was IT. Easy enough to announce one as a Jedi Master, don't ya think? But then again, it seems to me from the LOOONG AGO read "Splinter in the Mind's Eye" that there was mention of him going off somewhere to further "teach himself" by "practice and meditation..." ?!?!?!?!?! As far as I'm concerned, he's still a windy-whiner jedi-wannabe in my book. The ONLY reason he wasn't squashed like the true bug that he is was due to the second thoughts of dear ol' daddy. I don't think he ever really had the ability to "meditate" enough to "learn more" on his own, especially not with the deeply ingrained negative attitude that he has. [ 08-12-2005 02:18 PM: Message edited 1 time, lastly by Graysith ] -------------------- I ride the Stormcloud and the Night!
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