Who else besides me thinks the title, "Revenge of the Sith," is a bit silly for the up-coming Episode Three SW movie? I mean really, think about it... what "revenge?"

Weren't the Sith creeping out of hiding, so to speak, wrangling to take over the Empire? Or was that the Empire itself was getting stronger and stronger, aided under the table by the Sith?

I think it doesn't make any sense; there is no "revenge" involved at all, as far as I can see. (Unless I've gone suddenly blind, which has been known to happen, heh.)

Nope, I think something like "Victory of the Empire" or something along that line would have been a far better title than the one Lucas came up with.

Thoughts?

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honestly, im not to impressed with lucas on the new trillogy so far. a new hope. empire strikes back, Return of the jedi. Those 3 are immortal movies in my mind. some of the greatest movies in existance.

But so far, the new trillogy has left soemthing to be desired...

Phantom menace was like "wow...aside from that final battle with maul and Obi-wan This movie didnt have much to it"

well, you did learn about were luke gets his annoying side(young anakin was annoying)

Attack of the clones was slightly better. But again, it fell down to one battle, Yoda vs. the Count.

I honestly had though he had given up hope and stopped making movies, as untill this title release i hadnt heard anything about it for some time.

Cause i really dont know how he's going to fix the mistakes he's made in ep. 1&2 and bind this trillogy together with the original.
THough he might not, as none of the new kids out there even watch the old trillogy. So he's probably hoping to pull a slider, if he does though, im going to be quite upset.

*sigh*

It really is sad. That future generations will grow up thinking "wow, starwars sucks. These three movies are the worst movies i've ever seen" without knowing the true glory of the starwars past...
Hopefuly the books will continue to bring honor to the starwars universe...

sorry for suddenly appearing and babling. But i feel very strongly about this subjected....

*bows*

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And I must agree with you in many ways. Yup-- the latter two movies, much like many coming out of Hollywood these days, were seemingly nothing but very simple plots wrapped around action-glitz and special effects. I mean, wow, Episode 1 was mainly just an introduction to Anakin, and his first meeting with Padme. Okay, and Palpatine gets his political toe in the door.

Episode 2 followed through with the obvious (wow they sure fell in love fast, didn't they) -- not to mention, what's with this "attack" bit of the clones? Weren't the clones supposed to be on the side of the good? I mean, theoretically... but then, I guess the artificially manipulated setup here was just to foment unrest and insecurity so Palpatine could rise to power and eventually become Emperor.

But I agree: "The Empire Strikes Back" had to be the best of the Star Wars movies so far. Heh... back when they didn't have all the fancy computer generated effects they had to rely on script, didn't they? Not to mention character development (aka, Han Solo's and Chewie's sky-rocketing popularity!)

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In the 70s and early 80s there wasnt anything as magical as the scenes that were produced in the Star Wars trilogy. The Visual frame of things produced the flavor that everyone loves today. Though certian portion of acting did manage to stand on its own as great, it was as superb as the simple visuals.

Lucas Arts has a knack for bringing what is in his mind to life and making the audience feel it. The only lackluster I find is the fan base nowadays from the past looking down on such miniscule things. Yes, I do find the title stupid, dumb and not even a fabric of exciting, but the action and visual art of this whole series is what has brought it to the forefront of the culture.

And Entaris, I hope you were exaggerating because if you weren't I think you really have a problem in grasping reality. The movies werent anywhere as bad as people claim they were. They were exciting, had battles and the visuals were mindblowing, especially in the last of the prequels.

This one coming up I have kept my eye on and alot of news has come from it. How well they are managing to put things together is incredible. What I've seen myself has shown me that the dark atmosphere is chilling and Anakin is no longer our loveable, but somewhat tempered child. He is a grown Jedi Knight with an anger ready to boil and crush every single person in the galaxy.

The fight with him and Obi-Wan Kenobi, that we all knew was going to happen, is probably the biggest of the probably 10 fights that roll throughout the movie. If you guys can't understand that the action and visual affects are the biggest power of these movies (yes trilogy and prequel) then I think you shouldn't even waste your money watching the upcoming ending of the prequel.

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I think this entire set of twin trilogies is definitely a classic simply because it's the first attempt to present a storyline in such a manner: a centrally-oriented opening which leads the viewer into the whole intrigue, and then the explanatory prequel showing us what is hinted at in that central opening sequence of movies.

I'm glad Lucas isn't going for his original idea of 9 movies in this series, as the "flavor" -- as it is mentioned -- would thoroughly be lost. We would then be away from the main plot and loose to fly in the Star Wars universe (which I suppose is what we do here with our role play, isn't it?). However, this might just be too much for us diehards who adhere to the "beginning," and want to see more of that, and the "founding characters."

I well remember the Original Trilogy. It was awesome, and eye candy aside, Episode 5 still ranks as the best one as far as plot movement, character development, and just general atmosphere goes. It was, after all, just about the only movie (that I can think of) that DIDN'T have a happy ending, where the good guys won and rode off triumphant into the sunset. The whole episode was dark and chilling in a subtle, insidious manner, and presented in a way that left the viewer filled with said darkness and chills when he or she left the theater -- not to mention definitely wanting more.

THIS trilogy, Episodes 1-3 are different; we might want more, but not because we "need to know!!!" what is going to happen. We already know that; all we're in for is the eye candy, the simple presentation of known events to come.

There is a difference.

[ 08-04-2004 05:37 PM: Message edited 1 time, lastly by Graysith ]

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But however good the current series is with special effects and action, I agree that it just doesn’t have the “magic” that the old series did. You need a lot more than action, you need character development and plot. If just want action, then go watch a kung fu movie or play a video game.

I’m not saying the new series is bad. They are developing the character of Obi Wan quite well, and I like the way that Palpatine is maneuvering his plans on a grand scale. But much of the rest of it seems forced, so to speak. I mean, the droids don’t even need to be in the story at this point, they are almost distracting. And the whole deal with Anakin’s mother is another thing that seems oddly convenient.

Anyway, back to the original topic! Yes, “Revenge of the Sith” is a stupid title.

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But yeah, the droids were silly enough in these episodes. I think they were forced into play just as another means of connecting the first three episodes with the middle. I too think they could have been left out entirely, and more focus placed on the development of Anakin's shadowy side. They're doing this with Palpatine, after all, so why not place more emphasis on the one destined to become Darth Vader?

OK, here we go, then. Ideas for what they SHOULD have named Episode 3? Or maybe the entire first three episodes...?

Hmmm... Ep. 3, the "Triumph of the Sith." Or, the "Rise of the Sith." Or how about, "A Shadow Falls."

Ep. 2, "The Coming of the Night."

Ep. 1 (who can remember back that far, sheesh), "Seeds of the Shadows."

There. Those are my suggestions, in perfect 20-20 hindsight.

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As for titles, how about “Rise of the Empire”.

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I mean, the line "luke, look deep within yourself, you know it to be true... I am... Your father" still sends chills down my spine.

And i think one of the best scenes movies have ever had, was when anakin returned to the light, and say's "take of my helmet, just once, i want to see you with my own eyes"

That and the wholesom characters such as Han solo and Chewie... The new series just doesnt have that. There are no characters that you fall in love with like those two.

As for the droids, they mess the story up bad, i cant wait to see how they explain obi-wan not remembering R2-D2. and also that C3 doesnt say "hey, i was made by a skywalker" But thats just a pet peave

The thing that dissapoints me, is that there just isnt as patternsaid, "the magic"

*cry's* I feel so abandoned. On the bright side. while starwars movies become less magical, the games are becoming more magical

Course, that is a very small comfort in the scheme of things... Hmm... I want to watch return of the jedi now... *wishes he had a copy of the trillogy*

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