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Entaris

posted 12-11-2002 09:14 PM    
Ok, i finaly understand... anakin was predicted to bring balance to the force, AND HE DID!

He killed off every jedi EXCEPT 2, and there were then 2 sith... So, in reality, while they jedi are always talking about balance in the new triligy, they are the ones screwing it all up...

The sith only have 2, the jedi have like millions! YOU SEE! they try to make it look like the sith are evil, and the sith are screwing the balance up, but those jedi's are just hipicryts... Anakin has them all killed, and brings balance, then as his son learns of the force, he kills obi-wan, and preserves the balance! GET IT! WOW! then he kills the emperer, and turns good, but that would mean it would be unbalanced, so he lets himself die, rather then fight it...

And then luke later continues the balance, by tredding both paths for a little bit, but eventauly turns to the jedi way, and messes everything up...

So in actaulity, from the start, as evil as they claim the sith to be, the siths actions were GOOD, because they were doing what the jedi claimed to do, while the jedi were doing the oposite...



Selah

posted 01-21-2003 09:14 PM    
mmm *nods & blows a bubble* Good luck w/ that... *winks*

arogers1102

posted 02-07-2003 12:52 AM    
Never would have thought of that on my own... But GREAT theory... A++ on that one!

Sa'kal'ishaalas

posted 10-13-2004 05:05 AM    
I've noticed that too. My solution would to eradicate all the Jedi and unbalance the force by making a huge sith empire, but thats me. However, balance wasn't quite reached though because other jedi hid besides obi-wan and yoda, but they never did anything to stop the empire. More power to the Sith!!!

Graysith

posted 10-13-2004 07:51 PM    
Hey, all the above works for me!!



Cult Master Raelgosh

posted 10-14-2004 12:11 AM    
ok, so we put all the jedi in one room, and the sith in another, gas them MUCH longer than the federation does, and the problem is solved. Not nearly as epic, but I find it would work.

Sa'kal'ishaalas

posted 10-14-2004 12:16 AM    
But why would you want to kill the sith? They're awesome and the true rulers of the galaxy. The only problem is they fight too much among themselves (which is why only two were allowed at a time) but a large sith empire with a few select at the top who rule by absolute fear would be the best way to rule the galaxy (and the planet if you wanted to aply this to the real world, minus the sith)

Graysith

posted 10-15-2004 04:12 AM    
I still say they're dark jedi. They wanted to use the force for dark purposes. Where they came up with the title of Sith, who the heck knows.

I like our little history/storyline here, where we distinguish between the Sith (race) and the former sith (aka: dark jedi). It makes more sense.

But then, I'm kinda biased since I thought of it.



Cult Master Raelgosh

posted 10-16-2004 03:54 AM    
True. But the more I stay here and RP, the more I want to apply it to the normal starwars universe. I remember when I first heard about this from Blade of Chaos, and I was thinking, what the...... But now it seems totally natural. Where did you come up with it anyway?

Sa'kal'ishaalas

posted 10-19-2004 04:48 AM    
From what I understand, the dark jedi didn't choose the name sith, but it was their assumed name after the original sith species died out.

Grand_Moff_Tarkin

posted 02-03-2005 10:39 PM    
Screw the force, kill off all jedi and sith to make sure the force stays balanced forever and have a "force free, proud to be" empire with the grand admiral of the imperial forces at the head of it.

Sa'kal'ishaalas

posted 02-06-2005 01:45 AM    
OK, so then your going to organize a galaxy wide search for every single force sensitive person and murder them? Don't bother. The Emperor tried to but failed...

And what's wrong with the force sensitive people? They are awesome, could murder any of us with little effort. The sith would be more likely do to that though, and I still think the Jedi suck because they won't go to any measure to get something done. Stupid good people....



Mira Tukiano

posted 03-12-2005 07:58 PM    
So we create a force storm that sweeps that galaxy, and kills all of those that are connected to the force. Problem solved.

Ender

posted 06-02-2005 11:40 AM    
that would kill every living thing in the galaxy, except maybe ysalmiri. everything is linked to the force, whether they want to be or not. even when jedi have their force powers blocked like in KOTOR2 they are still part of it. and since when have the sith been good? lets not forget that, our storyline aside, the dark jedi that assumed the name sith did indeed kill off the species known as the sith. as in genocide. i haven't heard of jedi killing of whole populations for no reason. the dark jedi wanted power, pure and simple. the sith were by no means innocent beings, but they hardly deserved the fate that befell them in the form of the dark jedi.

just because you have the power to kill, or control, or d any of those things, doesn't mean you should. power is a tool to be used when all else fails. it is a last resort. why would yo kill a smuggler when you can convince him to change his ways, or shoot a thief when you can stun him?

maybe i'm just a softy who has no place in a harsh new galaxy. please ignore my ramblings!



Graysith

posted 06-02-2005 12:15 PM    
quote:
Originally posted by Ender:

...just because you have the power to kill, or control, or d(o) any of those things, doesn't mean you should. power is a tool to be used when all else fails. it is a last resort...



Excellent view, Ender.

Now if we could only get our auspicious world leaders to think along these same lines....

[ 06-02-2005 12:16 PM: Message edited 1 time, lastly by Graysith ]



Sellith

posted 06-02-2005 03:02 PM    
Yeah, that is a good view. Looks like someone plays lightside in the video games.

Ender

posted 06-03-2005 12:11 PM    
i make my decisions based on my upbringing. i do choose darkside sometimes, but not as often as lightside. whats wrong with lightside?

Sellith

posted 06-03-2005 12:38 PM    
Nothings wrong with it, just I personally think the darkside is stronger. Cause everyone used anger in the movies to win fights. Ep I Obi-Wan got angry cause Qui-Gon got killed then he killed Maul. Ep II Dooku used anger to defeat Obi-Wan and Anakin. Ep. III Anakin used anger to kill Dooku and to wipe out the Jedi. Palpatine uses anger to kill the Jedi that come to arrest him and to beat Yoda. Ep IV Vader uses anger to kill Obi-Wan (ok Obi let Vader win but Vader probably would have won). Ep V Vader uses anger to defeat Luke. Ep VI Luke uses anger to beat Vader then Vader uses Anger because Palpatine was killing Luke and he kills Palpatine.

Really the only exception would be Obi-Wan and Anakins fight in Ep. III

I seem to have a gift for thinking up crazy theories



Ender

posted 06-03-2005 08:24 PM    
i don't think the point is that the darkside is stronger. its that lightside is the control for the darkside. without it the darkside is like a rabid beast that will kill itself. so its like a ying yang thing. one isn't stronger than the other, and they need each other.

Sarisa Ker

posted 06-03-2005 11:47 PM    
ok but after Vader destroyed the emperor and then he himself died. that was all the bad guys. so then there was an unbalance because there was no darkside.

Graysith

posted 06-04-2005 12:15 AM    
I STILL say there is no "control."

The Force is the Force, and it's all a matter of how you use it, what your view is when tapping into it.

I believe anger merely amplifies it, so those striking out with the Force in anger are exceptionally strong.

Unfortunately, striking out in anger usually means striking out blindly, unthinkingly... and that is where innocents get hurt. Where things that ought not to be done happen, where statements that ought not to be spoken are, and all that kind of thing.

Anger comes from a "me" view. Non-anger comes from a view of the whole.

Kind of like wolves against sheep, I would say.

*Growls, as I am NOT a sheep....*



Sarisa Ker

posted 06-04-2005 12:29 AM    
Graysith i understand your point. i was just going along the lines of what Ender was on. I also agree that Force sensitives who use strong emotions such as anger along with the Force are very strong.

Ender

posted 06-04-2005 08:12 PM    
the way i see it, anger without direction is futile. i've been giving it alot of thought, and i guess there really is no good or evil, just your viewpoint. and since no one has the same viewpoint, no one really knows what its like for the other person.

Sarisa Ker

posted 06-06-2005 11:20 PM    
Yeah i agree. You can't always tell how someone is feeling or might react to something with out knowing that person extensively. As far as the light/dark sides of the Force. it comes down to how you use the Force if you are sensitive to it. If you feel more like crushing someones throat with just a thought then people will mark you as being a bad guy or possibly being on the dark side, but what if it was a good guy defending himself and that impulsive thought comes to mind that the only way for him to survive is to kill his opponent witha force chock? To someone who has never seen that jedi they might think he's a bad guy.